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PostSubject: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 9:23

Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit

By Antonette Collins


A former Children's Court magistrate says she is dismayed by a decision to reunite two young girls with their father, a registered sex offender.

A Family Court judge in Hobart has ruled that the girls must visit their father every second weekend provided another adult is present in the home overnight.

The father involved in the case has been convicted of accessing child pornography and possessing child abuse products. He will remain on the sexual offenders register for at least another year.

But the judge has declared that it is in the best interests of the girls, aged eight and 10, that they spend time with their father, who cannot be identified.

He says there needs to be a lock on the girls' bedroom door as the "father acts impulsively from time to time and that the children need some protection from him, especially at night".

Former magistrate Barbara Holborow is upset by the decision and says one of the girls said she did not want to visit her father.

"That view should be respected, no matter what the age of the child," Ms Holborow said. "And unless you're doing that, you cannot say it is in the best interests of the child.

"She doesn't want to be there. That's in her best interests. Don't let her go. If she doesn't go, unless another adult is accompanying the other child, she shouldn't go either."

Ms Holborow says it is not enough for the judge to place conditions on the visit and think nothing untoward will happen.

"My goodness it's not as simple as that," she said.

"As for the children staying over there? No. School holidays? No. Visits? Yes - a trip to the zoo or to some other entertainment, but never sleeping over at this stage of their lives."

Ms Holborow says she hopes the decision does not set a precedent and that legislation is not necessary to stop similar decisions in future.

"In my view this father has lost all of his claims to his daughters. This is too late now to say, 'I want to be a father and have access to my children'.

"He should have thought of that before he committed these offences, which are terrible offences and certainly not conducive to raising children.

"We're treating him as though he's entitled to this, to visitations, but I don't believe he is.

"I think you just need common sense. You cannot get over the statement by that little girl. She doesn't want to be there."

John Abbott from the fathers' rights group Blackshirts says the court has taken all precautions to protect the children.

"What we have here is a situation where there's no real allegation that the court has found against the father molesting his own children," he said.

"And we have to keep in mind that alienating children from parents is a very serious matter."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/15/2846649.htm

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John Abbott from the fathers rights group says the court has taken all precautions to protect the children.

What if there were a house fire, is a locked bedroom door such a great idea where children are concerned?

This makes me sick, how can anyone begin to rationalise with this?

Mens -vrs- peddo rights group!!??!!


Absolutely disgusting, something has to be done about this atrocity.


Any individual who violates the rights of children, should never be removed from the sex offender register, this or be permitted unsupervised access to children, much less their own.
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 9:25

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Former magistrate Barbara Holborow is upset by the decision and says one of the girls said she did not want to visit her father.

Too bad, this is about mens rights, not the rights of children who clearly are not being considered here.

How sick!
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 9:28

And since when did father rights groups start acting like prisoner rights activists?

Are they there to support dads, or defend paedophiles wanting access to their own children?


Or do they just double up as both?

It's amazing what a few dead beat dads can do when they put their mind to it....


You would think they would be ashamed of themselves, this and wouldn't be able to look their own kids in the eye after doing something like this, much less force them to visit them, when it's clear, these girls want nothing to do with their dead-beat dad.


I thought the law was there to protect the innocent, not the guilty.


Time to fight fire with fire!
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 10:28

They aren't overly welcoming, so it would appear.

Anyone have an updated/accessible link to their militant peddo/father support group home page?

Because I'd like to have a word with them.











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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 11:39

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I was dismayed to discover that ABC News Online gave some space to the opinions held by a *particular* fathers' rights group on this matter. I am not opposing the airing of the opinions of a father's rights group. Indeed, I was looking forward to hearing fathers' lobby groups attempts to justify this decision.

The group cited in Ms Merkins' op-ed is no ordinary father's rights This group is "the Blackshirts". Its founder, John Abbot was quoted in this story:

Abbott has escaped jail time but not a criminal conviction for his organised harassment and intimidation of women. See


Abbott led groups of masked men into protests outside the homes of women with the clear intent to cause fear. " ...in at least 12 recent cases, disgruntled men have staged demonstrations outside women's homes, using megaphones to broadcast allegations of infidelity and child abuse to their neighbours...." (see

He also performed letter-box drops shaming his victims to their neighbours and made late-night crank calls to victims. For someone who claims that the family home is soveriegn, he contradicts himself by being a busybody on steriods.

Abbott is more than just a misguided and benign vigilante nor a common garden variety right-wing nut job. He was branded as "gutless" by the Victorian Attorney-General, the Hon Robert Hulls MP. The-then Chief Justice of the Family Court, Alistair Nicholson, is quoted to have described the Blackshirts' behaviour as "one step along the path to terrorism" (see Yea verrily, the other fathers' rights groups have distanced themselves from him and his extremist tactics.

Abbot purports to be interested in children's rights but really seems to be obsessed with permissive female sexuality. Anyone who wants to read about Abbott's organisation can do it on their own. I refuse to cite his website.

This angry yet dangerous stand-over man should not be given a modicum of credibility. He does not deserve and should not get any encouragement.

A post taken from online opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Fri 28 May 2010 - 11:44

Yes, more can be read about the above here...

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10216
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 13:53

well done
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 13:53

I know, and it's absolutely disgusting.
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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 13:56

I'm taking screen shots of all the posts which are being mysteriously deleted.....


Like I said, I don't care.... wont be long and I'll have my own brand spanking new forum....

You dont win that easily pal!

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-magistrate dismayed by sex offender visit   Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 13:58

No, the boards being tampered with by some rambunctious bratty script kiddy who managed to find a forum-motion hack.....lol probably googled it...


Big whoop!


Cool Do you think it bothers me?


It's a free forum afterall..... so...




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